Is Ogg support possible?

iPwnzorz · Post by **iPwnzorz** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:18 pm

What's the situation with Oggs? Is it the RAM thing or something, I tried out my project on my DS and found out afterwards that only MP3 is supported.

Is Ogg support doable?

Mud · Post by **Mud** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:18 pm

Why don't you just make your project use normal monster.sou files? People would just be able to compress it as they see fit.

iPwnzorz · Post by **iPwnzorz** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:29 pm

Because:

A) My actors have already recorded a multitude of lines
B ) I can't do VOCs.

clone2727 · Post by **clone2727** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:44 pm

iPwnzorz wrote:B ) I can't do VOCs.

ffmpeg has a VOC encoder.

iPwnzorz · Post by **iPwnzorz** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:52 pm

That clears up B then.

But I really don't want to get the cast to re-record all their dialogue.

Mud · Post by **Mud** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:39 pm

Wouldn't it be possible to just convert it?

fingolfin · Post by **fingolfin** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:45 pm

Doing all the recordings in lossy Ogg Vorbis is a bad idea from the start, as was explained in this forum to you before. Record them as WAVE, VOC, FLAC, anything which is lossless. Then you can do conversions do arbitrary formats from those, you can do editing, cutting, noise shaping, etc..

iPwnzorz · Post by **iPwnzorz** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:55 pm

And I told you, they've already done most of their lines.

md5 · Post by **md5** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:53 am

But you were warned against this right when your project was started...

iPwnzorz · Post by **iPwnzorz** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:54 pm

Actually, I was warned straight after I got so many lines.

Anyway, they've been instructed on keeping the sound clean to keep editing to a minimum. Justin even made a cover (to decrease "PUH"s on Ps and breaths) out of tights (or pantyhose to Americans).

manias · Post by **manias** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:31 pm

iPwnzorz wrote:Actually, I was warned straight after I got so many lines.

Anyway, they've been instructed on keeping the sound clean to keep editing to a minimum. Justin even made a cover (to decrease "PUH"s on Ps and breaths) out of tights (or pantyhose to Americans).

So convert the ogg's to mp3 or wave, what's the problem?

iPwnzorz · Post by **iPwnzorz** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:20 pm

They would be lossy if I converted them.

Anyways, I've told them I will take lossless formats for future dialogue.

And this was just me asking if OGG support would be possible, not "Jump on and criticise me".

clem · Post by **clem** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:23 pm

I think I read that the problem with OGG in general is that it needs floating point operations, and afaik the DS doesn't have that built into the hardware, so it'd be horribly slow.

And good luck with the speech project! Don't let the criticism get you down - while I also think that using lossless compression makes more sense until release time, even if you lose quality by saving a dozen times I assume it'd still sound far better than the speech in games like BASS or FOTAQ.

iPwnzorz · Post by **iPwnzorz** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:55 am

Eww the voice in FOTAQ was awful! Added on top of the awful game!

Anotherguest · Post by **Anotherguest** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:08 am

Still tremor is a fixed point implementation of ogg, but still it requires abit of cpu, and I guess more than the poor DS can handle.

And even if all lines are already recorded, I guess,converting it to wav again would n't be to hard, what bitrates are the oggs in anyway? On mobile platforms I usually recommend very low bitrates, to lower the amount of data to be be read and decoded.