Early Macromedia Director titles are supported now

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Re: Early Macromedia Director titles are supported now

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Dose it run a Director program thats a exe file in Scummvm..?
There was a FE that was made in 2001 that was made in Director and you could walk around 3d environments so like a virtual arcade, it was called 3D Arcade and it was built in Director MX I think, I used it a lot, up until Director was removed from Windows, You can download Arcades and Arcade Cabinets too for it and then load the games from the Cabs in MAME, If I try and run it it windows it partly loads but then crashes.
Its here... https://www.mameworld.info/3darcade/
I was wondering if I could get it to run in ScummVM..?
This is one of its arcades, it used the 3D part of director and you can use skins(themes) on it to like Hyperspin.
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You can see it in this video, how it worked.
https://youtu.be/BOjbcmnS-1s?t=197
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Re: Early Macromedia Director titles are supported now

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No. We currently support titles up to Director 4. MX was Director 9.


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Re: Early Macromedia Director titles are supported now

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Hello ScummVM Director engine developers. Thank you for your continuing efforts toward getting Director games up & running in Scumm. I've been monitoring the ScummVM homepage ("Latest Developments" section) for any Director engine development status but haven't noted any recent posts. Any chance you can provide us interested followers/future users a brief update on where you're currently at with your Director 4 development...? Do you need any user testing/bug reporting support at this time (for "Total Distortion" or other D4 game...)? Thanks for any update you might provide and again for your continuing Director engine development efforts...
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Re: Early Macromedia Director titles are supported now

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I realise it’s kinda beyond the scope of SVM, but I love that the (Windows version of) the Star Trek Omnipedia (Director 4.0.4) is recognised by 2.8.0 :mrgreen:
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Re: Early Macromedia Director titles are supported now

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sev wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:58 pmWe are also actively collecting info on any Director-based (and Shockwave) titles that we catalogue on our Wiki, so, please, help us with this task.
Wiki says:
Jönssonligan går på djupet Win/Mac adventure 7.0 (possibly 7.0.2, judging by the Mac executable) Appears to be Swedish only. (It's the second of two games, but I don't have Jönssonligan: Jakten på Mjölner.) Windows executable is 2000-10-16, and for the Mac executable it's 2000-10-26.
I found some old data lying around with "Jönssonligan: Jakten på Mjölner" installation media for PC only and in Swedish only. File contents state Macromedia Director 7.0.2. Alas, this is probably a cracked/touched copy, since EXE and directory dates are 2008-03-29, other file dates are only up to 2000-11-14.
I don't have wiki editing rights. Tell me if you want any other information about this artifact...
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Re: Early Macromedia Director titles are supported now

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In the ScummVM Wiki there is a "list of known games and software" for director games. I was wondering about the game Golden Gate Killer (also known as SFPD Homicide) and couldn't find it in there.
Now I'm wondering if it was just forgotten, or if there is another reason for it not listed there.
It uses Director 4.0.4F

Also in the Wiki I saw there is a workaround by creating an empty D4-mac file.
So I did that and it's in my game list now with the "Madei With Macromedia" graphic, but when starting it tells me "Path is not a file".
I installed the game in an Emulator (BasiliskII) and copied the installed files over using the shared folder.

Also I then tried the cli --start-movie way, scummvm told me the name I gave is unknown and I should use the list-games parameter, and there in the list I found SFPD. So it is known after all. But the result is the same as with the gui, it just tells me the path is not a file. I also tried the empty lingotests-all file, but then ScummVM tells me it found no game files.
Are there any more infos on what files need to be where for this game?
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Re: Early Macromedia Director titles are supported now

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The German version of Jewels Of The Oracle gets detected, but immediately crashes on launch. Anyone else getting this problem?
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Re: Early Macromedia Director titles are supported now

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Kasenshlogga wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 3:21 pm The German version of Jewels Of The Oracle gets detected, but immediately crashes on launch. Anyone else getting this problem?
The game is not supported. The list of supported games can be found here: https://www.scummvm.org/compatibility/

Jewels game requires some heavy bespoke code, the whole in-game navigation lives in a separate DLL. We will work on it eventually.
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MetalSnake wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 6:55 pm Now I'm wondering if it was just forgotten, or if there is another reason for it not listed there.
It uses Director 4.0.4F
That list is not even close to being complete, and as you may see, we were not updating it much. It is just part of the investigation effort. If anyone is willing to help cataloging the Director games, please request the Wiki account from me.
MetalSnake wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 6:55 pm Also in the Wiki I saw there is a workaround by creating an empty D4-mac file.
So I did that and it's in my game list now with the "Madei With Macromedia" graphic, but when starting it tells me "Path is not a file".
I installed the game in an Emulator (BasiliskII) and copied the installed files over using the shared folder.

Also I then tried the cli --start-movie way, scummvm told me the name I gave is unknown and I should use the list-games parameter, and there in the list I found SFPD. So it is known after all. But the result is the same as with the gui, it just tells me the path is not a file. I also tried the empty lingotests-all file, but then ScummVM tells me it found no game files.
Are there any more infos on what files need to be where for this game?
At this point in time, it is a gamble if a game which is not on the compatibility list runs. Many games used external code, e.g. Xtras, basically a DLL, extensions to Director functionality; a lot of games had installers and thus, required specific things present in your system and some developer has to take a look into it and simulate the presence of those things; and in general Director 4 support is being actively working, we still have missing features and some things are implemented not quite correctly on our side.


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