Lands of Lore ?

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Lands of Lore ?

Post by leo43 » Sun May 14, 2006 4:52 pm

Any chance for Lands of Lore to be supported ?

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Post by john_doe » Sun May 14, 2006 6:03 pm

No.

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Post by leo43 » Mon May 22, 2006 11:34 pm

Why ?

Doesn't fit in "adventure" category ?

Any other reason ?

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Post by dreammaster » Mon May 22, 2006 11:51 pm

I think the "doesn't fit in adventure category" sums it up pretty well.

Although don't get me wrong; from my experience the non-inclusion of non-adventure games seems more to do with the core teams wanting to focus more on adventure games than other game types. If you (or anyone else) were willing to go the effort of completely reverse engineering the game's data formats and then make a ScummVM module for it yourself, I don't think the team would be hostile to including it in the distribution.

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Post by clem » Tue May 23, 2006 7:37 am

dreammaster wrote:I don't think the team would be hostile to including it in the distribution.
or there could be a spinoff, like MAME and MESS

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Post by john_doe » Tue May 23, 2006 7:42 am

I'd really like something like ScummVM but for RPGs with support for games like Eye of the Beholder, Lands of Lore, TES: Arena and Daggerfall... *dreams* :)

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Post by eriktorbjorn » Tue May 23, 2006 10:19 am

john_doe wrote:I'd really like something like ScummVM but for RPGs with support for games like Eye of the Beholder, Lands of Lore, TES: Arena and Daggerfall... *dreams* :)
The Spectalum project supposedly aims to re-create Eye of the Beholder II but as I don't have that game myself I couldn't say how well it's succeeding.

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Post by fac » Thu Jun 08, 2006 3:31 pm

dreammaster wrote:I think the "doesn't fit in adventure category" sums it up pretty well.

Although don't get me wrong; from my experience the non-inclusion of non-adventure games seems more to do with the core teams wanting to focus more on adventure games than other game types. If you (or anyone else) were willing to go the effort of completely reverse engineering the game's data formats and then make a ScummVM module for it yourself, I don't think the team would be hostile to including it in the distribution.
It's true that Lands of Lore is not a adventure game. But if anyone ever decided to pick it up, i think at least the data format shouldn't be very different from Kyrandia2/3.

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Post by Dark-Star » Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:48 am

john_doe wrote:I'd really like something like ScummVM but for RPGs with support for games like Eye of the Beholder, Lands of Lore, TES: Arena and Daggerfall... *dreams* :)
Don't forget the early Might and Magic series (before Might and Magic 6).

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If you want to help on reverse engineering some of these games, feel free to help on the REWiki. I have some of those classic dungeon-crawl style RPGs myself (Dungeon Master 2, Stonekeep, Might&Magic, ...) and I do want to work on reverse-engineering them.

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Post by df » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:48 pm

The problem with RE'ing these old rpg's, most of the time they were not scripted, and the data files are just graphics, so all the game logic is buried in the exec...

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Post by Dark-Star » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:59 pm

That is true, I can verify this at least for Might and Magic. However it is still possible to re-implement such games, it's just more work. You have to separate the hard-coded data into external files, like the kyra, lure and BASS modules do in ScummVM (or like the GemRB project handles it by adding more table data files).

Maybe someone really really wants to do this for these games, who knows. And in that case, the hard work of reverse-engineering has already been done by others so he/she can concentrate on the interesting part ;-)

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Post by df » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:15 pm

I'd love to RE wasteland :) or a generic goldbox engine for por/cab/ssb/etc...

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Post by clem » Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:36 pm

I'd love seeing Betrayal at Krondor again - probably with Irrlicht3D as 3D engine though :)

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Post by eriktorbjorn » Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:20 pm

clem wrote:I'd love seeing Betrayal at Krondor again - probably with Irrlicht3D as 3D engine though :)
There's the xBaK project, but I haven't tried it myself. They claim to be "in pre-alpha stage".

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Post by clem » Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:36 pm

eriktorbjorn wrote:There's the xBaK project, but I haven't tried it myself. They claim to be "in pre-alpha stage".
whoa, that looks promising!

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