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Proposed French copyright law may affect ScummVM

Post by Parhelion » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:13 am

While reading the AGDI forums, I came across a link to a rather scary sounding law up for consideration in France. Here's the link:

http://eucd.info/index.php?English-readers

The part that reminded me immediately of ScummVm is as follows:
An amendment to the proposed DADVSI bill has the aim of making criminal counterfeiting out of publication, distribution and promotion of all software susceptible to being used to open up data protected by author's right and not integrating a method of controlling and tracking private usage (technical measure).
If passed, how do you think this might affect the project?

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Post by loki1985 » Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:02 am

hmm. this is somewhat, ahm, badly defined.

it could mean MS Word would be illegal, since i could open a manuscript in DOC format written by someone else. and hence it would be the otrher persons data....

this is silly.

and the "tracking" thing probably means: "let you software phone home or get busted"....

even more silly.

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Post by Ender » Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:34 am

ScummVM will not be affected in any way. I won't elaborate on this, because this bill is such a contradictory piece of crap that it's pretty much impossible to make sense out of it.

But even if such a stupid bill managed to somehow get passed, it shouldn't apply to ScummVM. And even if it did, we're not going to honor it in any way :)

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Post by LogicDeLuxe » Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:20 pm

That's not all. It goes even worse:
http://www.fsffrance.org/news/article2005-11-25.en.html wrote:Friday November 18th, 2005, French Department of Culture. SNEP and SCPP have told Free Software authors: "You will be required to change your licenses." SACEM add: "You shall stop publishing free software," and warn they are ready "to sue free software authors who will keep on publishing source code" should the "VU/SACEM/BSA/FA Contents Department"[1] bill proposal pass in the Parliament.

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Post by sev » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:02 pm

http://www.fsffrance.org/news/article2005-11-25.en.html wrote:SNEP and SCPP have told Free Software authors: "You will be required to change your licenses." SACEM add: "You shall stop publishing free software,"
Now this is simply ehrm... an idiocy. They require me to shut up my mouth? I wrote that code. My will for it is to print it in newspapers or, say, be shown on TV or published in Internet and I use my own resources for that. Who will stop me?


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Post by Kaminari » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:23 pm

The policy of the current right wing government is clear: nothing should be free. Capitalism at its finest :)

Culture (amongst other things, like science and research) has never been a priority of this unpopular government, so I'm not surprised it's easily influenced by lobbies like the SACEM (French RIAA) or Vivendi when those come up with a "clever" idea.

Anyway, the bill would have to be approved by the Parliament, and chances are it won't.

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Post by Ender » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:38 pm

LogicDeLuxe wrote:That's not all. It goes even worse:
http://www.fsffrance.org/news/article2005-11-25.en.html wrote:Friday November 18th, 2005, French Department of Culture. SNEP and SCPP have told Free Software authors: "You will be required to change your licenses." SACEM add: "You shall stop publishing free software," and warn they are ready "to sue free software authors who will keep on publishing source code" should the "VU/SACEM/BSA/FA Contents Department"[1] bill proposal pass in the Parliament.
I believe this bit of the bill deals only with software that bypasses DRM.

Also consider that VU = Vivendi Universal, BSA = Business Software Association, SACEM = French version of the RIAA, and SNEP/SCPP are two trade groups dealing with music licensing / revenue etc.

All of these groups have always had a vested interest in killing civil liberties. None of them are even remotely authorised to speak on behalf of the French government :)

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Post by joachimeberhard » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:39 pm

Please let's not get too political here.

Although this proposition itself really is stupid.

Basically it states that you are not allowed to express yourself if you do not sell and copyright it.

Now what's that for a stupid idea?

It reminds me of a song from Futurama:

"We didn't choose to be bureaucrats, no no, it's what the mighty Jah made us..." :wink:

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Re: Proposed French copyright law may affect ScummVM

Post by ZPedro » Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:10 pm

Parhelion wrote:
An amendment to the proposed DADVSI bill has the aim of making criminal counterfeiting out of publication, distribution and promotion of all software susceptible to being used to open up data protected by author's right and not integrating a method of controlling and tracking private usage (technical measure).
I think this amendment is meant for formats like PDF where the author can set up protections on the content, but the reading software has to honor them, and some cheap (or pirate) readers do not care about the protection. It's of course also meant to legally protect all kinds of DRM on legally sold music from being cracked (at least, make these cracks legally punishable).

This isn't as bad as the DMCA, but still I think there's too many ways this thing can be reinterpreted that threatens a whole load of software, so I'm definitely against this stuff.

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