World of Xeen: french version with scummvm ?

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World of Xeen: french version with scummvm ?

Post by willow75 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:38 pm

I would like to know if the french version of world of xeen is supported by scummVM?

Thanks.

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Re: World of Xeen: french version with scummvm ?

Post by dreammaster » Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:48 pm

willow75 wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:38 pm
I would like to know if the french version of world of xeen is supported by scummVM?
Not currently. Only the English version will be officially supported in the next release. And if/when I do return to the engine to add support for other languages, it's likely only the German version will be added, since that's the only non-English version available on GOG, and I don't own the French version.

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Re: World of Xeen: french version with scummvm ?

Post by willow75 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:13 pm

dreammaster wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:48 pm
willow75 wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:38 pm
I would like to know if the french version of world of xeen is supported by scummVM?
Not currently. Only the English version will be officially supported in the next release. And if/when I do return to the engine to add support for other languages, it's likely only the German version will be added, since that's the only non-English version available on GOG, and I don't own the French version.
If you want I can give you a copy of my french floppy version. This version is avaliable on abandonware-france.org if you want.

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Re: World of Xeen: french version with scummvm ?

Post by Raziel » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:53 pm

...and that would be a pirate site...

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Re: World of Xeen: french version with scummvm ?

Post by dreammaster » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:57 pm

willow75 wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:13 pm
If you want I can give you a copy of my french floppy version. This version is avaliable on abandonware-france.org if you want.
We always insist on legitimate copies to be donated or sourced in such cases. Not only to not support piracy in any form, but we wouldn't be able to be otherwise sure that the so-called "abandonware" version hadn't changed something which would affect the detection entry. In any case, my earlier point remains the same.. if/when the German version becomes supported, you could always again offer to donate your copy for translation at that point.

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Re: World of Xeen: french version with scummvm ?

Post by willow75 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:43 am

Raziel wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:53 pm
...and that would be a pirate site...
No because the site is partner with GOG. It's not a pirate site.
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Re: World of Xeen: french version with scummvm ?

Post by willow75 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:44 am

dreammaster wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:57 pm
willow75 wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:13 pm
If you want I can give you a copy of my french floppy version. This version is avaliable on abandonware-france.org if you want.
We always insist on legitimate copies to be donated or sourced in such cases. Not only to not support piracy in any form, but we wouldn't be able to be otherwise sure that the so-called "abandonware" version hadn't changed something which would affect the detection entry. In any case, my earlier point remains the same.. if/when the German version becomes supported, you could always again offer to donate your copy for translation at that point.
Thanks.

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Re: World of Xeen: french version with scummvm ?

Post by Raziel » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:09 pm

willow75 wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:43 am
Raziel wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:53 pm
...and that would be a pirate site...
No because the site is partner with GOG. It's not a pirate site.
Just because it "partners" with any legitimate site doesn't redeem it from offering pirated versions of games.

Where on the site does it state and prove that all of the offered games/software are legitimate copies with written permission to put in there from the original authors/right holders?

If you can show that to us, i'll take back my pirated comment, otherwise it's pirated as pirated can be...

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Re: World of Xeen: french version with scummvm ?

Post by willow75 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:47 am

Raziel wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:09 pm
willow75 wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:43 am
Raziel wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:53 pm
...and that would be a pirate site...
No because the site is partner with GOG. It's not a pirate site.
Just because it "partners" with any legitimate site doesn't redeem it from offering pirated versions of games.

Where on the site does it state and prove that all of the offered games/software are legitimate copies with written permission to put in there from the original authors/right holders?

If you can show that to us, i'll take back my pirated comment, otherwise it's pirated as pirated can be...
It's not legitime copies with written permission.
This site remove games when right holders ask them and add versions of games only no available on store market.
For example, french version of World of xeen is still because no french version is avaliable on gog or steam.

It's the difference between true abandonware site whose the only aim is preserve the visibility of ancient game like a museum and some vulgar pirated site.

I invite you to consult the site reading their chart to make a true opinion if you understand the french.
L'abandonware consiste à proposer en libre téléchargement d'anciens jeux qui ne sont plus disponibles dans le commerce à ce jour, et ce, depuis longtemps, et dont le service après-vente a été lui aussi abandonné Abandonware France a fait le choix de se spécialiser dans les vieux jeux PC et Mac et en français lorsque cela est possible.

Cette pratique est illégale et n'est que tolérée actuellement.

Alors qu'à l'origine seule la date de sortie des jeux suffisait pour déterminer si c'était un abandonware ou non, avec l'évolution des mentalités ainsi que la démocratisation du retrogaming (entendez par là le fait de jouer à d'anciens jeux vidéo), Abandonware France a été poussé à revoir sa position face à l'abandonware.

Actuellement, pour Abandonware France, plusieurs paramètres rentrent en compte pour qu'un jeu puisse être considéré comme un abandonware :

- Sa date de première distribution ne doit pas être postérieure à 1999.
- Il ne doit plus être commercialisé, du moins dans sa version francophone. Si le jeu est encore commercialisé mais à l'étranger, un consensus au sein de l'équipe peut amener à ce que le jeu soit tout de même diffusé sur Abandonware France dans sa version francophone.
- Les ayants droit ne se sont pas positionnés contre sa distribution gratuite.
- Il faut que l'équipe d'Abandonware France soit d'accord pour le considérer comme abandonware.

Par conséquent, Abandonware France s'engage à retirer immédiatement de ses serveurs tous jeux dont la commercialisation a repris ou dont les ayants droit ont contacté les administrateurs pour demander à ce que leurs jeux ne soient plus distribués gratuitement sur le site.
Before asking, I precise that I don't work for this site or family reliated at the members of this site, just the fact that I like their philosophy.

I can understand without any problem that you don't want to have any relation with them and I don't try to modifiy your opinion. I try to explain the aim of this site and only this site.

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Re: World of Xeen: french version with scummvm ?

Post by Raziel » Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:20 pm

LOL

Yeah, it's the same with taking someone else's novel (or any work someone spent years on to create) and spread it unconditionally...sure, if the original author tells me to put it down i, of course, do so, until then everything i have up, stays up...
Who cares for IP, who cares for the original authors work, who cares for the fame, who cares for potential revenue?

See the flaws?

It's a pirate site, period.

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