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circletheory



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MUNT Reloaded? 

There's a thread on VOGONS that have a group of talented developers improving the MUNT engine. http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=27560 Since I love love LOVE how ScummVM adjusts the colors and graphics of the Sierra SCI games, I was wondering if there has been any thought of merging in the updated MUNT code to the ScummVM branch? I've heard samples from a recent SVN DosBox build and it sounds brilliant! If ScummVM could be updated to the latest MUNT, this would be HEAVENLY!!

Keep up the FANTASTIC work guys!!

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Post Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:45 pm 
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I tried it too. It is closer to the real thing but it consumes way too much CPU compared with the old one.

Integrating it into scummvm now would make it impractical to people who have laptops (which is the whole point of munt IMO).

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Post Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:40 am 
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sev
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I think we can consider adding it, but as an alternative MT-32 emulator, just like we're doing now with FMOPL emulator.


Eugene

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quote:
Originally posted by sev
I think we can consider adding it, but as an alternative MT-32 emulator, just like we're doing now with FMOPL emulator.


Before anyone puts too much work into that, this is what the README file on http://sourceforge.net/projects/muntreloaded/ says:


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Since many of my proposed changes are going to be included into the MUNT Project or at least into a separate branch, the MUNT Reloaded fork is closed. It'll be completely deleted as the upcoming MUNT release appears.

MUNT Reloaded sources are moved to https://github.com/munt/munt/tree/munt_reloaded_import


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Post Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:53 am 
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sev
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Yep, thanks for the pointer. I just read about it on VOGONS. Basically there is no MUNT reloaded anymore, they're going to be merged. Also there are some more under the hood developments which are expected to lead the project to completion, i.e. 100% accuracy.

Still taking into account that the API practically did not change, it would be not much work to plug in new code into the place.


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Post Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:51 am 
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circletheory



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quote:
Originally posted by sev
Still taking into account that the API practically did not change, it would be not much work to plug in new code into the place.


I hope the inclusion of the updated MUNT code will be seamless for you developers. It's wonderful that you folks would even consider this MT-32 upgrade -- now I really can't wait for the next version!
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Exciting!

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I take back what I said before about performance being worse
It is now as good as v0.1.3! This is after the most recent commit that just happened 3 hours ago.

Exciting indeed!

I will wait until the project is complete (or at least stalls) before trying to integrate this into scummvm. In the meantime I will just use the munt alsa driver which works perfectly with both scummvm and dosbox.

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Guys, this is unbelievable. Just tried the latest DosBox SVN build from http://ykhwong.x-y.net/ and the mt32 emulation is so close to the real thing. It's nowhere near the old emulator integrated into scummvm.
When they reach 100% accuracy I might as well sell my mt-32.

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quote:
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Guys, this is unbelievable. Just tried the latest DosBox SVN build from http://ykhwong.x-y.net/ and the mt32 emulation is so close to the real thing. It's nowhere near the old emulator integrated into scummvm.
When they reach 100% accuracy I might as well sell my mt-32.


I'll take it! Always wanted a second one Smile.
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MUNT reloaded project was integrated into MUNT git.: https://github.com/munt/munt/

Recently its accuracy, performance, and reverb have been improved a lot. I think that 2011-04-06 commit (97204aabd3e5d8b38185) is the most stable as of now. The MUNT developers are currently working on it for better accuracy.

It wouldn't be that hard to implement it to ScummVM if file handling is customized for the emulator.

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quote:
Originally posted by ykhwong
MUNT reloaded project was integrated into MUNT git.: https://github.com/munt/munt/

Recently its accuracy, performance, and reverb have been improved a lot. I think that 2011-04-06 commit (97204aabd3e5d8b38185) is the most stable as of now. The MUNT developers are currently working on it for better accuracy.

It wouldn't be that hard to implement it to ScummVM if file handling is customized for the emulator.


KingGuppy will work on integrating it into ScummVM when he feels MUNT is ready.
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Hi ykhwong, nice to read from you here. Just wanted to say Thanks for your great DosBox builds, especially the recent inclusion of Munt which finally made me play Space Quest 3 again which sounds fairly nice by now.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bobbin
Hi ykhwong, nice to read from you here. Just wanted to say Thanks for your great DosBox builds, especially the recent inclusion of Munt which finally made me play Space Quest 3 again which sounds fairly nice by now.


All credits should go to MUNT developers, not me. I am just giving some feedbacks to them. Smile

quote:
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KingGuppy will work on integrating it into ScummVM when he feels MUNT is ready.

It's good to hear that KingGuppy is going to have it included in ScummVM. Thanks for the information.
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circletheory



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MUNT updated 

Was just doing my routine lurking in the VOGONS forums regarding MUNT and downloaded ykhwong's DosBox build. All I can say is, wow. Unbelievable. Now, my Roland MT-32 is nothing more than a nice mantle piece on my desk. The emulation is completely spot on. And the reverb finally sounds correct.

I really hope to see the latest MUNT absorbed into ScummVM soon!

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