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da1writer



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Bringing back our CHILDHOOD games... 

Title pretty much should say it but I was wondering with the support of Ecoquest, Pajama Sam, Putt Puttt and a few others in ScummVM - I was wondering how you guys would feel of supporting some childhood games ALOT of us probably played.
Have you guys ever approached let's say ... The Learning Company and their engine/games?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Learning_Company

Games like the Treasure series would be pretty sweet to play again (Treasure Galaxy was not part of the Cannon but can be supported), on the go especially!
You know...
Treasure Mountain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8libUShcrE
Treasure Mathstorm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69QzIRK8geE
Treasure Cove:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfCO5Tsi_Lg

Cluefinder series was great too (Youtube them if you wanna) albeit a bit hard in the later grades but the Trail series was great as well (Oregon, Yukon, Amazon).

Of course it might be a bit hard to get these engines as The learning company, Broderbund, and a few of that merger got sold off to multiple people.
Do you guys think it's worth it or am I alone on this aspect of thinking?


Last edited by da1writer on Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:28 am; edited 1 time in total

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KuroShiro



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Re: Bringing back our CHILDHOOD games... 

quote:
Originally posted by da1writer
Title pretty much should say it but I was wondering with the support of Ecoquest, Pajama Sam, Putt Puttt and a few others in ScummVM - I was wondering how you guys would feel of supporting some childhood games ALOT of us probably played.
Have you guys ever approached let's say ... The Learning Company and their engine/games?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Learning_Company

Games like the Treasure series would be pretty sweet to play again (Treasure Galaxy was not part of the Cannon but can be supported), on the go especially!
You know...
Treasure Mountain:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8libUShcrE
Treasure Mathstorm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69QzIRK8geE
Treasure Cove:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfCO5Tsi_Lg

Cluefinder series was great too (Youtube them if you wanna) albeit a bit hard in the later grades but the Trail series was great as well (Oregon, Yukon, Amazon).

Of course it might be a bit hard to get these engines as The learning company, Broderbund, and a few of that merger got sold off to multiple people. The Treasure series though is abandonware along with some of the Carmen Sandiego Series (another great series by Broderbund that would bee great to play again and on the go!), so maybe it's possible?
Do you guys think it's worth it or am I alone on this aspect of thinking?


There are certainly tons of excellent old games, but not everything falls under the scope of ScummVM, which is only meant to support point-and-click adventure games. None of the games you mention really fall under that genre, though they're all certainly very good. Also, this thread should probably be in the Junkyard.

Additionally, there is legally no such thing as abandonware and discussion of that sort of thing is against the rules here for legal reasons (forum rule #0).
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I remember those! I used to play them in school! I loved those things! Cannot for the life of me remember why or what the gameplay consisted of, though! lol

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da1writer



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Agreed KuroShiro, maybe this thread does belong there but you'll have to know all the games I did mention can be played with a mouse interface only (and simple numbers and directional buttons) as the games were geared towards kids not being well with keyboards yet. Cluefinders is pushing it (along with the Trail Series) but the Treasure series could be played with a keyboard OR Mouse (or both) - check the vids to understand. Carmen Sandiego series was primarily point and click as well - I don't remember at all it using a keyboard.

First post is edited mind you, of mentioning the A word but of course I can't edit your qoute Razz...

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Originally posted by da1writer
Agreed KuroShiro, maybe this thread does belong there but you'll have to know all the games I did mention can be played with a mouse interface only (and simple numbers and directional buttons) as the games were geared towards kids not being well with keyboards yet. Cluefinders is pushing it (along with the Trail Series) but the Treasure series could be played with a keyboard OR Mouse (or both) - check the vids to understand. Carmen Sandiego series was primarily point and click as well - I don't remember at all it using a keyboard.

First post is edited mind you, of mentioning the A word but of course I can't edit your qoute Razz...


I know all the games you were talking about and played them all when I was a kid. Out of the ones you mentioned, Carmen Sandiego is probably the closest to the type of games that ScummVM supports. Just having mouse control doesn't constitute a point and click adventure game Razz.
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Yeah, these aren't really adventure games.

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quote:
Originally posted by KuroShiro
I know all the games you were talking about and played them all when I was a kid. Out of the ones you mentioned, Carmen Sandiego is probably the closest to the type of games that ScummVM supports. Just having mouse control doesn't constitute a point and click adventure game Razz.
Several of the Windows Carmen Sandiego games do use Mohawk, so it could potentially be supported in the future...
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Graxer



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I really wish I could still play The Learning Company's Gizmos and Gadgets again. The CD windows version, which I have, doesnt work with modern computers. However, it's definately out of scope for ScummVM.

Sometimes I wish there was another ScummVM spinoff program, like Residual, but which was aimed at out of scope games like this. To play certain The Learning Company games again would be amazing. (Also, having Zoombinis on other platforms)

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Games that used the Mohawk engine

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da1writer



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quote:
Originally posted by Raziel
Games that used the Mohawk engine


* Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?
o Version 3/3.5
* Where in the USA is Carmen Sandiego?
* Where in America is Carmen Sandiego? (The Great Amtrak Train Adventure)

I remember playing the 3.5 version of Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego! So does that mean the Carmen Sandiego games could be supported in the future due to the Mohawk engine Smile!

Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego 3.5 version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Up1Z3Em9Ik

Where in the USA is Carmen Sandiego 1991 version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Jo8a0w05Q

Surprised Where in Time isn't possible to be supported?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-J21Og1YN0

I do agree Graxor that it would be cool to play some of the old Learning Company games again (The Super Solvers/Treasure series was my favorite!)
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quote:
Originally posted by da1writer

Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego 3.5 version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Up1Z3Em9Ik
Yeah, that uses Mohawk.

quote:
Originally posted by da1writer

Where in the USA is Carmen Sandiego 1991 version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Jo8a0w05Q
Definitely not Mohawk.

quote:
Originally posted by da1writer

Surprised Where in Time isn't possible to be supported?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-J21Og1YN0
That one looks like Mohawk, but I don't have it so I have no idea.
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by da1writer

Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego 3.5 version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Up1Z3Em9Ik
Yeah, that uses Mohawk.

quote:
Originally posted by da1writer

Where in the USA is Carmen Sandiego 1991 version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Jo8a0w05Q
Definitely not Mohawk.

quote:
Originally posted by da1writer

Surprised Where in Time isn't possible to be supported?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-J21Og1YN0
That one looks like Mohawk, but I don't have it so I have no idea.


For USA... would it be the 1995 version then that is Mohawk?
http://www.archive.org/details/012323
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quote:
Originally posted by da1writer
For USA... would it be the 1995 version then that is Mohawk?
http://www.archive.org/details/012323
It should be. I have the game and have looked at the files, but I never played it.
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