So this thread is probably just wishful thinking, but I figured I'd get the ball rolling anyway.

It sounded like the biggest hurdle to getting ScummVM to work on the iPhone via the App Store would be getting the game files onto the phone. I have no idea if what I'm about to suggest works, but what the hell, it can't hurt

I noticed browsing around the newly opened App Store that there is an App called FileMagnet that works with a desktop program (Mac only right now) to download files from a computer to the iPhone. If those files could be accessed by another App (ScummVM) then that would solve the problem! I have no idea what the SDK allow in that regard though.

Once again, I realize this is most likely wishful thinking, but nothing ventured nothing gained.

   

So after some research, it turns out a third party program downloading the files wouldn't work because the Apps definitely can't access each other's files. Still, a Wifi Downloader is definitely possible.........

*sheepish grin*

   

http://www.veiosoft.com/ - DataCase
Maybe something like this program would work? Still not sure, if it's possible to get access to the files uploaded by this program from an other one...
It comes out on July 28th, and will cost $7 so let's wait...

   

This would be really great if you cold get it to work.
I ordered my iPhone today and ScummVM would be the first app I install.
It would be nice if I didn't have to jailbreak it for that.

Wouldn't it be possible to upload the games with the SDK?

   

Another hurdle is state saving. Apple doesn't allow any software into the app store that uses a background process, or is persistent in any form when you hit the "home" button. In its current state (and please correct me if I'm wrong), when you hit the "home" button, the app pauses and retains its state in the background. So unless I'm mistaken, that's something else that we'll need a new solution for.

   

IIUC, some of the Google Summer of Code work going on would be useful in this regard.

Best wishes,
Oscar

   

Sorry, YDNUC, no GSoC work related to this is going on.

   

Maybe a demo bundle, with a few demos (and possibly a freeware game like Beneath a Steel Sky?) could be authorized? Even if it wasn't capable of importing games, a lot of people could still enjoy BASS.

I believe the Wii ScummVM came with a few game demos.

   

@Fingolfin: My bad. I thought the work on improved savestate management might make solving the 'no background apps' problem easier.

-Oz

   

But why does ScummVM need to run in the background? Can't it just saved the gamestate and ask if you want to continue where you left of when starting ScummVM again?

But the biggest problem is to get the game files onto the iPhone. I wonder if someone have a good idea how to solve this.

I was wondering if maybe it would be possible to offer the released games through the app store? Like BASS, Flight of the Amazon Queen and Lure of the Temptress.

//Rob

   

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But why does ScummVM need to run in the background? Can't it just saved the gamestate and ask if you want to continue where you left of when starting ScummVM again?

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But the biggest problem is to get the game files onto the iPhone. I wonder if someone have a good idea how to solve this.

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I was wondering if maybe it would be possible to offer the released games through the app store? Like BASS, Flight of the Amazon Queen and Lure of the Temptress.

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I'm not sure why saving the state when the home button is pressed is so important though. Certainly not a deal breaker. You can save the game at any point anyway so just save before you press Home. Obviously if you get phone calls while in game you might lose some progress, but this is the same issue for every game in the store so why the big fuss?

Getting the games onto the iphone would obviously be the possible deal breaker here, but I would be surprised if this is such a huge hurdle.

I personally don't really mind either way since my iphone is jailbroken (and forever will be) but if getting out to as many people is one of your main aims then don't give up

   

lol -- I've bought a few games from the app store already, and I refuse to get any that don't save your game when you receive a call. Apple's Texas Hold'em, a really nice Sudoku game, Enigmo, Aurora Feint... all save progress .

The early versions of ScummVM didn't retain state when a call came in, and it was so frustrating I almost threw my phone across the room. You can deal with having to restart a card game.. but 15 minutes in a card game and 15 minutes in an adventure game are two totally different things

   

Well, download the NES emulator on Cydia. This program is showing an icon on the top when returning on the summeboard when you were running a game ... so running in background is possible ?

   

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Well, download the NES emulator on Cydia. This program is showing an icon on the top when returning on the summeboard when you were running a game ... so running in background is possible ?

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They could technically be shipped with ScummVM legally, but they couldn't be put on the app store as separate applications because they, in and of themselves, are not iPhone applications. Apple doesn't catalog dependencies or anything like that, unfortunately. And I say they could technically be included because you probably wouldn't want to do it in practice -- those games add up to hundreds and hundreds of megs, and aside from being bad ethics, Apple may not even allow it.

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